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Mike Spencer
2025-01-05 23:07:29 UTC
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Support for your opinion on dark energy (dark matter not mentioned):

A short squib on https://soylentnews.org/ with some relevant links.

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Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada
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2025-01-06 18:18:15 UTC
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Post by Mike Spencer
Support for your opinion on dark energy
Hi Mike,

Happy New Year to you as well.

I haven't been checking here daily and missed the post you
directed to me. I don't have the mathematical or "abstract concept"
sort of brain that people like you and James have. While DE (and
DM) allow equations to balance and could support current
observations, I always considered both placeholders for "something
we can't detect and might not be there." The "might not be there"
part was troublesome, and I used luminiferous aether as my example.

The article in that list says "Dark energy cannot be seen
directly and has never been proven. But scientists have suggested
that it must exist because of the effect is seemingly exerts on the
universe and as it is needed to help resolve some fundamental
problems in our understanding of the cosmos. Now, however,
researchers from the University of Canterbury say that the universe
is not actually expanding equally in all directions. Instead, it is
growing in a lumpier way in more varied directions."

This (something we haven't observed yet or an accepted but
incorrect belief) is far more likely to explain things than made-up
fudge factors. DE and DM might exist, but at least I'm not alone
in thinking they are both wishful thinking.
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James Warren
2025-01-06 19:54:18 UTC
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Post by Mike Spencer
Support for your opinion on dark energy
Hi Mike,
Happy New Year to you as well.
I haven't been checking here daily and missed the post you
directed to me. I don't have the mathematical or "abstract concept"
sort of brain that people like you and James have. While DE (and
DM) allow equations to balance and could support current
observations, I always considered both placeholders for "something
we can't detect and might not be there." The "might not be there"
part was troublesome, and I used luminiferous aether as my example.
Scepticism is healthy in science, especially if it based on reasonable
doubt and at least a little evidence or reason to suspect current
accepted evidence.
Post by HRM Resident
The article in that list says "Dark energy cannot be seen
directly and has never been proven. But scientists have suggested
that it must exist because of the effect is seemingly exerts on the
universe and as it is needed to help resolve some fundamental
problems in our understanding of the cosmos. Now, however,
researchers from the University of Canterbury say that the universe
is not actually expanding equally in all directions. Instead, it is
growing in a lumpier way in more varied directions."
That is one possibility. Another is that DE may have had a different
value in the early universe.
Post by HRM Resident
This (something we haven't observed yet or an accepted but
incorrect belief) is far more likely to explain things than made-up
fudge factors. DE and DM might exist, but at least I'm not alone
in thinking they are both wishful thinking.
It is not wishful thinking. It is formulating hypotheses implied by the
available data. Such hypotheses must normally be eventually be supported
by actual observations. Until then the hypotheses are tentative even if
tenable.

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